Comment Rules and Hunter/Trapper Trolls

25 May

When this website was started in early March we put rules in place for those who comment to this site. Those rules are as follows:

For those that comment on this site:

This is not a place for hunters and trappers to try to justify their behavior. There are plenty of pro-hunting and pro-trapping websites available to visit if that is your intention. WE VOW is a refuge for people who view wildlife as something other than being “recruited” or “harvested” for recreational purposes. Hunters and trappers already have their voice heard all over the internet, in newspaper outdoor pages,  and in all levels of our government. WE VOW is a place for the rest of us to have a voice, the silent majority.

As the viewership of this site has increased so have the number of comments from those threatening violence toward the hunter/trapper crowd and inane propaganda justifying their bloodsport from the other side.

For those wildlife advocates who post threats of violence, please stop. While the hunters and tappers deal in brutality and death, we deal in life. We have to be better than them and refuse to stoop to their level.

Then we have the hunter/trapper trolls who come to this site to spread their pro-killing propaganda that tries to equate killing with “conservation.” It is not. Here is an example of one of those comments from a person who identifies themselves as “Ben:”

“Without hunters you would not have wildlife. Our tax dollars and license dollars go to support habitat and land. Hunters give wildlife a voice everyday and we make it a priority to repect and use the resource accordingly. Your miguided information is funny to read, please keep it up so we have some good laughs in the future.”

It’s funny how every time someone doesn’t buy into their “killing is conservation” propaganda we are “misguided.” Who is doing the guiding? The Wisconsin Bear Hunters Association? The NRA? The Wisconsin “Wildlife” Federation? SCI?

Without hunters we wouldn’t have wildlife? Really? Who was it that killed off the wolves the first time? It wasn’t tree huggers. Who was it who killed of millions of bison? Again, it wasn’t tree huggers. Correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe it was hunters that did these acts. If your money does so much then why is the DNR begging for money from non-hunters?

DNR faces case of dwindling resources

Dwindling resources, but you can sure keep giving money to bear hounders whose dogs are allegedly killed by wolves. And we are misguided?

Hunters give wildlife a voice everyday? Really? Do the thousands of bears that are relentlessly hounded several months of the year and then slaughtered in the fall have a voice? Did the 800 wolves that are now targeted for slaughter for four and a half months, 24 hours a day, with packs of dogs have a voice?

Notice that wildlife are not animals or living beings with people like this. They are “resources.” Respect? You mean “sportsmen” respecting wildlife like this:

How about this:

Or this:

There are thousands more like these examples. Respect? Yes, keep laughing.


8 responses to “Comment Rules and Hunter/Trapper Trolls

  1. Sandra McGee

    May 25, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    Who ever wrote that paragraph needs to have his head examined. What a joke, & they really
    believe that shit that they spew.
    Sick, thats my word for ALL hunters. They are sick humans who can’t fathom sound science.

    • rali74

      May 25, 2012 at 6:24 pm

      They think that their version of “science” is the only one that matters because they have bought and paid for the fish and wildlife departments and their biologists. It’s funny how independent biologists rarely ever agree with the fish and wildlife department biologists. Fox guarding the hen house maybe?

  2. J.a. Crowder

    May 25, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    Yes Our Tax Dollars pay for all you hunters to screw up nature. Your a bunch of morons, all you have in your heart is Killing, and making animals suffer, then they become extinct then there gone. , Plenty of deer to eat, stop killing the predators you kill for fun, hate, trophy, & stupidity . Stop It All…….. If You Cant Eat It Don’t Kill It. Trapping not only kills wildlife it kills pets, dogs & cats .

    • rali74

      May 25, 2012 at 8:56 pm

      You hit the nail on the head. They can spew all of the propaganda they want about “hunting for food” or “feeding their family,” but I would bet that 99% of hunters hunt because they want a trophy and enjoy the killing. If they are going to hunt for their food, then we shouldn’t see them buying meat at a grocery store. If they hunt and still purchase meat from a grocery store then it shows that they don’t need to hunt “for food.” Just look at the media in Wisconsin newspapers and television station websites. It is all about glorifying killing animals complete with the cammo clad sadist grinning over a dead animal. How does that “respect” the animal? Smiling over a bloody body is respectful? If it is about procuring food, how come they don’t proudly pose with that pack of hamburger or steak that they buy at the store? It is because they revel in killing that animal. Not for food, but for the trophy.

      • Diane

        May 26, 2012 at 5:14 pm

        Yes, hunters claim they hunt for food, but give me a break @ $30,000-$40,000 for their fancy huntin’ pick up truck, $10,000 for their ATV so they don’t have to walk into the woods, $100-300 for their deer rifle, $100-400 for their bow & arrows, buck scent to lure the deer to their death, $100 for 2 way radios, deer stands @ $300 each-I have a friend who says her husband has over 30 deer stands!!, deer processing $100, hunting clothing $ 200. $50 dollars for beer & alcohol-I might not have the dollars quite right, but you get my point-you could buy alot of quinoa, beans & lentils for that money. So don’t tell me its about its about the food. Interesting developments in the world of hunters vs James Kroll, the new deer czar are unfolding & may pit hunters against Walker. Apparently Walker & the deer czar hope to privatize deer hunting in WI by selling off the 5.7 million acres of public land, then surrounding private “deer ranches” with eight-foot fences & charging the hunters $2,000 for a deer license. It is the Texas & I guess the Euoropean- style of hunting allowing only the weathy to hunt. Perhaps this is why there seems to be no concern over wolves, bears or anything-we certainly cannot have some wealthy bureaucrat placed in a position where he may feel afraid if he should see a predatory animal & we certainly cannot have any competition for the expensive deer. I think the story is unfolding & I hope we are not going from bad to worse.

      • rali74

        May 26, 2012 at 6:21 pm


        I can’t wait to see what happens when the sacred hunters and Walker clash on this. Of course hopefully Walker will lose the recall and this will be a moot point. This “privatizing” of public lands thing is spreading with nut jobs all over the country. The head of the anti-predator group Sportsmen for Fish and Wildlife, Don Peay, called public lands for hunting “socialism.”“socialism”

        So I guess everything isn’t a rosy in hunterland as they try to make it look. Yet most hunters support Walker without question.

        And you are so right about the amount of money that these people spend to “put food on the table.” What a crock! They do it to kill and for the trophy and if they get a couple of meals out of it than that is a bonus for them. If someone legitimately hunts for food and doesn’t “double dip” by purchasing meat at a grocery store that is a different story. But how often is that really the case?

  3. Bobette Traul

    May 26, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    rali, any pro wolfer answer these morons ? I do on The Idaho Statesman and Missoulian. Can you do it on fb? I haven’t gone into it , there. There a commentors that really stick to their anti-hunting covictions and don’t back down.

    • rali74

      May 26, 2012 at 6:22 pm

      Surprisingly there were quite a few posts on the article in the Wisconsin State Journal about Adrian Treves where people stood up for the wolves. I think that more and more people are finally realizing what is going on and are beginning to be outraged. I wish we saw this same anger back when the bill was in the legislature.


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