Real Motivation Behind Natural Resources Board’s “No” Votes Come to Light

27 Sep

I had a nagging feeling that it was too good to be true that hounders would be banned from using dogs against wolves for long. Yesterday the Wisconsin Natural Resources Board voted 6 to 1 not to allow the DNR to develop “emergency” rules that would allow hounders to use their dogs against wolves this fall and winter. On the surface this seem like great news. Then came the reality that the NRB only used this hearing as a ruse in the hopes that Judge Anderson would buy into the fluffy hounder testimony and overturn the temporary injunction that he placed on the use of dogs against wolves. Then they gave approval for the DNR to start crafting “permanent” rules for allowing dogs to go after wolves and be “trained” to do so. The arrogance of the DNR and NRB is truly astounding. They now think that because some bear hounder shills testified before them and they let a few wildlife advocates talk, all is good and the hounders should be able to commence their legalized dog fighting. They really believe that Judge Anderson must be a total idiot and not see through their ruse.

Really? Who are these hounders and their benefactors trying to fool? As usual they talk out of both sides of their mouths. They whine that wolves have killed hundreds of their dogs, then they testify that there is no risk of wolves and dogs fighting? If that is the case then why has the State of Wisconsin paid out almost $500,000 for bear hounder dogs killed or injured by wolves? Enough of this garbage. It is time that the DNR be held accountable. These hounder sadists can talk all that they want about how their dogs will not “engage” but everyone knows that is a bunch of crap. We have all seen the videos of hounders standing around while their “beloved” dogs rip a wounded bear cub to shreds. We have also seen the videos of their dogs “engaging” coyotes. Do these people really believe that their four legged weapons will not “engage” wolves too? Just read the testimony of the hounders in this article:

Board wants judge to reconsider wolf hunt rules on dogs

“Advocates of the dog hunt, most of them experienced hunters who hunt bear with dogs, said there is always some risk when hunting with dogs whether the game is bear or pheasant or ducks.

“In real life you’re taking that chance every time the leash leaves your hand,” said Kendal Durham of Neillsville.
But Durham and the other hunters said their dogs are valuable, highly trained animals that a hunter would never put at unnecessary risk.

Supporters of the dog hunt outlined how the hunts would take place and how they would minimize the risks to dogs.

For example, Gregg Brzezinski of Allenton said hunters would be careful to put their dogs on a single wolf track to minimize the chance of the dog encountering a pack.

“It’s taking the least amount of risk and the best chance of success,” Brzezinski said.
“We have too much training into our dogs to take those risks.”

Durham said his dogs have encountered and followed single wolves while bear hunting, and “I’ve never had any bloodshed.”

So let me get this straight. These hounders let their dogs run rampant through the woods with nothing more than a GPS collar and he knows what they do when they encounter a wolf? Really? And how the hell would they know if they are trailing a “single” wolf? What happens when the hounders dogs trail that “single” wolf right to a pack rendezvous area? Are they just going to wag tails and sniff each other? This is the same fluffy garbage that we have been hearing from hounders since this whole fiasco started. If the hounders really believe that their will be no dog/wolf fights then they should have their shill, Rep. Scott Suder (R-ALEC) remove all hounder compensation from the wolf kill bill. I mean if wolves and dogs don’t fight then why are we paying out $2,500 time and time again for bear hounder dogs being allegedly killed by wolves? Are the hounders admitting that all of the incidents and subsequent reimbursements were scams that didn’t really happen?

I am furious and enough is enough. How many more lies and manipulation do we have to take from the hounders and their enablers in the DNR and NRB? This garbage of hounding being a “tradition” in Wisconsin needs to go away fast like other rural traditions. Slavery, witch burning, and public executions come to mind as the “traditions” that hounding needs to join as being bad memories from the past. It gets real old hearing many rural Americans fall back on the tired “tradition” argument each time they want to justify their abhorrent behavior. There is no place in a supposedly civilized society for sick and sadistic behavior like hounding and other forms of animal fighting. Is this really what Wisconsin wants to be known for?

Now is not the time to let up the pressure on the DNR and NRB. We must increase that pressure and educate more and more people as to what is really happening in this state. Every chance I get I tell friends, family, and co-workers about Wisconsin’s war on wildlife and they are appalled that this has been happening right under their noses for so long. They cannot believe that Wisconsin has legalized animal fighting and actively promotes it. This sadism used to be confined to rural enclaves and hidden from the rest of society. Now thanks to the extremist hunting groups and their enablers in the Legislature we are now seeing what these people and their behaviors are all about. Please do not let up on these sadists. Tell everyone you know what is really going on in this state.


Posted by on September 27, 2012 in Hunting, Trapping, Wisconsin Insanity, Wolves


13 responses to “Real Motivation Behind Natural Resources Board’s “No” Votes Come to Light

  1. Bobette Traul

    September 27, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    What!!!!!! Hope the Habushes flush this slime down the drain.

    • terri minnick

      September 28, 2012 at 6:25 am

      Yes it is time to BAN this barbaric practice of hounding. Inhumane for all species involved.
      Will we ever get a politician that isnt in the hunters’ pocket?

  2. moquah

    September 28, 2012 at 9:07 am

    Jane Wiley is the only member of the NRB with any backbone – she was the lone dissenting vote on Wednesday. Reach out to her and thank her for her resolve to do the right thing – she’s as disgusted with this outcome as we are.

  3. Tracker

    September 28, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    I have heard the comment several times now how houndsmen have been trailing wolves for years without consequences – even Al Lobner in his testimony this week said…in the recent 10 years having trailed wolves…wolves will run like other game trying to evade hounds – this raises several issues for me…

    1. The legality of trailing wolves, in effect harassing them, when they were listed as an endangered species. While we all knew some of this was probably going on, now we have houndsmen bragging about doing it. It was against the law to chase or otherwise harrass wolves, now they openly admit to doing it for the past 10 years?
    2. Wisconsin has paid thousands of dollars for dead hounds killed by wolves – how many of them were actually trailing wolves and not bears when they were killed? Perhaps a FOIA request would reveal how many houndsmen saw wolf tracks or other evidence (as opposed to just knowing there was a pack in the area) and still released the dogs. Obviously Lobner is one of them.

    • rali74

      September 28, 2012 at 1:51 pm

      The DNR are nothing but lackeys for the hounders. They know damn well what these sadists have been doing for years and have done nothing to stop it. The hounders are so arrogant that they openly admit harassing a federally endangered species because they know that nothing will be done about it by their enablers in the DNR. You are right that we need to make more use of the FOIA to expose what they have been hiding from us for all of these years. We did request a list of names and locations for those who received “depredation” reimbursements but the DNR said that was “confidential” and they wouldn’t give it to us. These scammers are getting public money and yet we are not allowed to see who is getting it? This whole corrupt agency needs to be exposed for what they really are. That is one of our many goals here.

  4. Bobette Traul

    September 28, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    Someone tell me about Jane Wiley. I’m not familiar with any of the board members.

  5. gannonned

    September 28, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    This article in the Washinton Times was a refreshing view on the tragic scene up there.

    • Diane

      September 28, 2012 at 8:29 pm

      California”s Prop 2 passed in 2008 resulted in real reform throughtout this nation for chickens in small cages, pork & veal calves in small crates unable to move. Maybe California’s ban on hounding will be what it takes to shed light on this barbaric blood sport. It is true, we must exert relentless pressure on Legislators, the DNR & the NRB to make our voices heard. We must educate people about what is going on-I also find people are shocked to learn that attached to the wolf kill bill was a bill allowing schools to provide credits to high school students to learn hunting & trapping. I take every opportunity to try to enlighten people in whatever socially acceptable way I can. It appears as though the rancher in WA State is being held somewhat responsible for not using any measures to deter the Wedge Pack from attacking his cattle. This issue again calls into question the fact free loading ranchers are using public land for nominal fees then farmers/ranchers demand a death sentence for any wildlife who competes for the use of the land with the cattle. Sorry, so many thoughts-so many issues in 1 reply.

  6. Bobette Traul

    September 29, 2012 at 1:48 am

    Center for Biological Diversity is moving to have wolves fully protected in California. That is good news.They are to be permently protected under the state ESA. Why do they protect wildlife and the other states don’t? Go figure.

  7. Rhiannon Gomez

    September 29, 2012 at 3:36 am

    I don’t understand this “kill any animal that moves” mentality. Why are these people so blood thirsty? It is obvious that they are talking out of both sides of their mouths when they say that they love their pets so much (ones they paid good money for, at least that is what I have read), when they know from past history that using dogs to hunt always ends in serious injuries or deaths resulting from these interactions. (Please note the sarcasm about paying good money for their pets!) Then to receive money from the state for these “beloved pets” that are killed or injured is just ridiculous. That being said don’t even get me started on the DNR and NRB. What a joke! I don’t know anything about wildlife management, yet I could start Monday and do a better job than they are doing right now.

    • chance

      September 29, 2012 at 6:24 am

      Hounding is a “recreational pastime” for these idiot SLOB hunters. Any animal that is killed in “unintended take” a trapper phrase…..Hundreds of animls die every year at the hands of these SLOBS……Hounders have always been reimbursed for lost dogs in Wisconsin. The lack of ethics and Fair Chase is stunning to say the least…..They are not embarrassed.

    • rali74

      September 29, 2012 at 9:39 am

      Many of these hounders sadists run backyard puppy mills. How can you “live” something and put it in danger needlessly? These clowns are so full of it. We had a hounder post on the site a couple of months ago and acted like he was such a great guy because he brought his dos inside when it was cold and kept one into old age. Wow common things that most pet “owners” do and this guy thought he was impressing us with how “humane” he was. That is the mindset of these people. Their dogs are nothing more than weapons to use against other wildlife. I can’t even fathom that I am part of the same species as these sadists.


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