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The Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism Blows the Lid Off Of Scam Hounder “Depredation” Payments.


Coyote killed by dogs in Wisconsin


**UPDATE 01-05-2014** The Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism has posted a chart along with numerous arrogant quotes from the convicted poachers and other violators that received “depredation” payments at this link:

State pays scofflaws over hound deaths

The end of the 2013-2014 Wisconsin wolf slaughter season marked the first time that dogs have been allowed to “legally” go after wolves. With the help of traps and packs of vicious dogs Wisconsin oversaw the slaughter of 257 wolves in a little over two months. The quota was 251 but the hounders and wolf haters had to make sure they exceeded that number for the second year in a row.

Wolf haters also took their vile bloodlust to a new low this year on the various anti-wolf hate pages that pollute Facebook and the internet. In between the countless snuff pics showing bloody dead wolves and the ginning sadists that killed them, were hundreds of calls from Northwoods wolf haters to “kill ’em all,” to poach unlimited wolves, and even going as far as giving tutorials about how to poison wolves. These comments were not even the worst of it. The season started by wolf haters sending death and rape threats to wildlife advocates and repeated use of the term “timbernigger”  directed toward Native American wildlife advocates.

The hate filled cretins assumed that their childish name calling and threats would make us back down and accept their disgusting sadism. They couldn’t be more wrong. If anything their behavior and disrespect toward wildlife and wildlife advocates have emboldened us even more to educate the public as to what kind of people hounders and the other anti-wolf factions really are. Not only are hounders the lowest of the low in the hunting community they also appear to be freeloaders at the teat of the Wisconsin DNR which enthusiastically pays them $2500 each time one of their dogs is allegedly killed by a wolf. Not only are hounders perpetrating the massive scam on the state by repeatedly putting their dogs at risk when tormenting other wildlife, the DNR has paid out vast sums of money to hounders that aren’t even licensed or allowed to hunt in Wisconsin due to various crimes and violations.

Yesterday, The Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism published an article breaking down the tens of thousands of dollars paid to convicted violators over the alleged killing by wolves of their dogs:

Wisconsin, the only state with a program that compensates the owners of dogs killed by wolves while hunting other animals, has paid tens of thousands of dollars during the past decade to individuals who have violated state hunting or firearms laws.

Seven individuals received a total of $19,000 in payments after they were convicted of crimes or paid forfeitures for hunting or firearms-related offenses, according to an analysis by the Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism. An additional $20,000 went to four claimants who were subsequently fined for such offenses, including bear hunting without a license.

In one case, the state Department of Natural Resources paid $2,500 to a man for a dog death that happened while he was prohibited from having a hunting license, due to a prior criminal conviction. The DNR, in response to the Center’s inquiries, is investigating. But even if the claimant was breaking the law at the time, which he denies, he will get to keep the money.

“Having a license is not an eligibility requirement for reimbursement of dogs killed by wolves,” said Tim Andryk, the DNR’s chief legal counsel.

The DNR program also has approved more than $80,000 in payments to repeat claimants — those who put dogs in successive situations where they were killed by wolves. And money has gone to people from other states who brought their dogs here to hunt.

For years hounders whined and cried about how wolves were killing their “precious” dogs yet they kept putting their dogs in those situations even after repeated “warnings” from the DNR of wolf activity.

Hunters frequently place the value of their lost hounds at well above the state’s maximum reimbursement rate of $2,500.

“They’re like our kids to us,” said Amy Visger, a board member of the Wisconsin Bear Hunters’ Association, in a 2010 Wisconsin Public Television news segment. “We really don’t want anything to happen to them.”

Visger is among the owners of the 23 hunting dogs killed in 2013 who are seeking compensation. She did not respond to an interview request.

Many hounders make claims to the state that their dogs are worth up to $10,000. One look at the various Wisconsin hounder Facebook pages show how much “value” these people place on their “$10,000” dogs.

Almost 7 year old male walker/bluetick cross bear dog. Great on caught bear, trees good, medium nose, medium speed. Selling him because hes not a great winter dog. $700 Putting this ad on here for a friend of mine so if interested, contact me and I’ll give you his contact information.

3 year old spayed Walker female for sale. Has been run on wolf,coyote and bear. Asking $200. PM me for details.

Plott pups for sale a lot of weems bloodline $300.00

Walker red tick cross hounds out of a 16 yr. Strain of lion and bear dogs, tails trimmed, first shots givin, dew claws removed, weened and ready for there new owners, $250 a pup.

All of the above posts came from Wisconsin hounders posting on a Facebook site. Any bets that if one of these dogs happen to be killed by a wolf they will suddenly be “worth” $10,000? These people are beyond despicable and one has to wonder if the state even bothers to inspect their backyard puppy mills as per state law.

According to the DNR’s Koele, the USDA’s wildlife services office has verified claims for all 23 lost hounds in 2013. The claimants have asked for up to $10,000 per animal, but the program’s established maximum is $2,500 — unless there are additional veterinary costs.

Most of the claimants for 2013 are set to get $2,500. The claims add up to $56,000, higher than any other year. The payments will be processed in mid-January, Koele said.

We certainly know how ethical Wildlife Services are. Watch this video to get an idea of what kind of people run and work for that agency:

A huge thank you to Bill Lueders and The Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism for exposing yet another of the unethical scams being perpetrated by the Wisconsin DNR and their bear hounder puppet masters. I wonder how many other government run programs allow you to collect money while breaking the law and then when caught do not require you to pay it back? Try that with unemployment or taxes and see if you get to keep the money. With hounders again the rules do not apply and it is time for the DNR to be called out for their unethical alliance with these disgusting groups and people.

State pays scofflaws over hound deaths


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Wisconsin DNR Setting the Stage For Massive Wolf Slaughter This Fall

Photo via Wikimedia Commons

Photo via Wikimedia Commons

**Update** Apparently there are some that cannot understand sarcasm, so I will further elaborate about the “missing calves” issue. Last year after contacts with the DNR we were told that the DNR automatically attributes any livestock losses over 2.3% to “wolf depredation.” When contacted the DNR had no answer or evidence as to why so much money is being paid out for “missing calves.” Even more disturbing is that there was ZERO evidence that wolves were involved, only that there may have been wolf “activity” in the area. This is why I said that wolves in Wisconsin must have “magic” powers that allow them to just make these calves “disappear” considering that there is nothing left behind, not even bones to show that these calves even existed. For more on this please read this article.

All over the local news today were stories from the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources proclaiming that the wolf population in the state is “stable” or “slightly” decreasing. The DNR claims that the current wolf population stands at “as many as” 834 animals. Last year they claimed the population was between 815 and 880 wolves. Now the talking heads at the DNR are using their new numbers to set the stage for what is likely to be an all out slaughter of wolves this fall by again obsessing on the ancient “management” number of 350 from the 1999 plan. Not content having over 243 wolves killed last year by “hunters,” trappers, Wildlife Services assassins, poachers, and “unknown causes,” the DNR is gearing up for all out war this coming fall.

Don’t believe me? Just look at the quotes and propaganda being put out by one of their talking heads:

“The management objectives remain to put downward pressure on the population,” DNR carnivore specialist David MacFarland said. “The mortality levels experienced in 2012 didn’t achieve that objective or only made slight progress toward the goal.”

Of course, “only” 243 wolves were known to be slaughtered last year and magically the numbers are exactly the same. Funny how that happens considering biologists estimate that over 70 percent of pups born each year die from various causes, and adult wolves actually do die from natural causes. I guess in addition to consuming entire animals and leaving no trace, Wisconsin wolves can apparently magically replicate so that their numbers never go down even after hundreds of deaths. So here is the DNR setting the stage for a massive increase in their kill quota because there are still “too many” wolves for the DNR and their bear hounder puppet masters.

And if there hasn’t been enough exaggeration and hyperbole about the states wolf population there is this:

The wolf hunt has been a flashpoint of contention since Republican lawmakers authorized it last year. Supporters say the state’s wolf population is exploding and devastating livestock. Animal rights advocates have countered the wolf population is still too fragile to support a hunt and people should leave what they consider a majestic animal alone. The state’s Chippewa tribes also are vehemently opposed to the hunt; they consider the wolf a spiritual brother.

Wolf populations are “exploding” and they are “devastating” livestock. Really? From the DNR’s own numbers here:

Remember last year when the wolf killing proponents were trying to justify their persecution of wolves by claiming that wolves were “devastating” livestock to the tune of almost $215,000? In 2012 the DNR paid out over $190,000 of that money for “missing” calves alone. Of course all of that money came from the Endangered Resources Fund that was generated from the sale of “Endangered Resources” license plates, featuring a wolf, and from income tax check-offs. Upon passage of the wolf kill bill last year those “depredation” funds now come from the sale of wolf killing licenses, and guess what? Suddenly the “depredation” payouts for 2013 have amazingly been cut to the amount of $139,174 over the same span of time. Of course again the vast majority of these payouts, $95,519, went for “missing calves” and $14,000 went for SIX dogs used by hounders. Another funny aspect is that wolves in Wisconsin have apparently decided to go to a beef only diet because amazingly they no longer “predate” on deer, pigs, chicken, and turkeys. They did apparently break away to “predate” on one $135 sheep, and one $625 goat though. But as long as that “missing calves” scam is still bringing in the dough it keeps the illusion alive that wolves are still “devastating” livestock. And as usual there is ZERO evidence that wolves were involved in the disappearance of the calves, but as we know Wisconsin wolves have magical powers that allow them to consume every last scrap of these calves, including bones (Authors note: this is SARCASM). Remember that all livestock losses over 2.3% are automatically attributed to wolves if their is “evidence” of wolf activity. Can you say scam? Also amazing was that there were not any $10,000 deer from canned hunting operations claimed this year. I guess now that the wolf haters have to pay for the “depredations” out of their killing licenses the number of claims have amazingly dropped. And of course this allows our wolf hating governor to drop the cost of a wolf killing license from $100 to $50 so that more killers will be out there gunning for wolves.

So all of this sets the stage for this:

The agency has formed an advisory committee to develop a 2013 kill limit recommendation. The committee plans to meet on May 23 in Wausau to work on the quota. DNR leaders will consider the committee’s recommendation as it finalizes a quota. The Natural Resources Board likely will vote on the number in June or July.

“The goal is 350 animals,” said MacFarland, who sits on the committee. “We’re working with that as the objective.”

Natural Resources Board Chairman Preston Cole had no immediate comment on what the population count might mean for the 2013 quota, saying he wants to gather more information from DNR staff.

Gee, I wonder what the “DNR staff” are going to tell Mr. Cole? Not that it matters because we all know that the NRB will rubber stamp whatever killing proposal the DNR recommends. Be prepared. This is going to get very ugly this fall and wolves are going to be pushed to the brink while the DNR keeps feeding us their propaganda and questionable numbers. Let’s hope that the federal courts see through this charade and puts the wolf back on the Endangered Species list where they belong.

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